Tuesday, September 25, 2007

socrates

ok so in class on monday we talked a lot about what is the point in asking the question if he already knows the outcome? and then from there we branched off into lots of other ideas. i was thinking...what if the point is that the question cannot be answered? and the point of him asking is to get the seemingly all lawful and knowing E. to admit to not having an answer for once? I know the main focus is "what is pious and what is impious" but maybe a subplot is that Socrates wants E. to realize that he cant have all the answers? someone in class said "the more you know, the more you suffer" so perhaps Socrates is trying to prove this, in a backward and not so 'deep' manner that E. will suffer when he tries to prove he has the answers to everything.
ok moving on. we also talked about Socrates indictment regarding how he has been corrupting youths. I really feel that the reason he is being charged with this corruption is not because of his methods of 'disturbing the peace' but because of what he is telling these kids. the government does not like that Socrates is questioning what they prefer everyone to believe and so they are trying to suppress him and any of his ideas...kind of like 1984 like we were saying in class only Socrates isnt wimpy like Winston, he realizes that without questions, society will just freeze in time and never get to progress and learn new things. without having a desire to question, then people are just giving in to fear and fatigue.
also, E. always says that the pious is what the Gods like. and I wanna know...what if the Gods change their mind?? then the definition, or i guess examples of the definition change....so there is no REAL definition is basically what he is saying.

and regarding the question of what if socrates got into it with abraham?? i am STILL thinking about it...

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